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Re: [hrpc] re history lessons

Mallory Knodel <mknodel@cdt.org> Mon, 03 May 2021 14:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [hrpc] re history lessons
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Hi Sandra,

It would be incorrect to minimise the impact of RFC 8280 and HRPC this 
way, Sandra.

The fact that 451 isn't as technically implementable as authors 
envisioned is orthogonal to its human rights considerations. It 
shouldn't be discounted.

I believe there are more RFCs and I-D that directly cite a human rights 
consideration, but others might chime in on which specifically.

It also won't include the ways in which people engage in draft reviews 
with human rights considerations influenced by RFC 8280. Harder to 
measure, but still worth doing.

-Mallory

On 5/3/21 10:43 AM, Sandra Braman wrote:
> Point taken, Niels, re the archive -- have read most of it but will 
> ensure it is all read and reviewed for its attention to this 
> particular question; will return to the list if questions remain.
>
> Another, if I may -- It turns out, according to Mallory and others, 
> code 451 has not actually been useful. What do members of this group 
> make out of the fact that only one RFC since publication of 8280 has 
> addressed human rights considerations, and that was the right to bear 
> arms?  Is it expected that publication of the guidelines document 
> currently in progress will make a difference?  Any advice regarding 
> where I can turn for explanations of this?
>
> Thanks again --
>
> Sandra
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Mallory Knodel
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