Re: [hrpc] I-D Action: draft-irtf-hrpc-political-03.txt

[Niels ten Oever <[e-mail]>]

Hiya,

On 7/12/19 11:03 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> On 12/07/2019 18:56, Niels ten Oever wrote:
>> These were all just hypothesis that one could seek to prove or
>> disprove.
> Sure, but all seemed on the "downside." If you do do some
> work on this, then maybe consider some "upside" hypotheses
> such as any trends in the number of people who participate
> and provide excellent and influential input over extended
> periods. I can think of a number of those who've turned up
> from unexpected places over the years.
> 

You are very right, I think recent work of Nick Doty is testament to that:

https://github.com/npdoty/bigbang/tree/ietf-participation/ietf-participation

> And fwiw, I figure each of those "counts" more than quite
> a few people who turn up just to grind their most recent axe
> without regard to any larger issues, so we don't in fact
> need hundreds of excellent participants, just a few can be
> significant. (My reason for saying that is that simply
> counting heads may not get to very useful figures, and could
> be misleading.)

With the current tools it is relatively easy to measure 'depth' of participation, as well as centrality and influence in the community and on its discourse. These measures could also be improved with data on authored I-D's, and RFC, and their relative importance vis a vis other I-D's and RFCs. A beautiful data science rabbit hole :)

Cheers,

Niels

> 
> Cheers,
> S.
> 

-- 
Niels ten Oever
Researcher and PhD Candidate
DATACTIVE Research Group
University of Amsterdam

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