Re: [hrpc] Censorship
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Mon, 21 March 2022 16:59 UTC
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Subject: Re: [hrpc] Censorship
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Le 21/03/2022 à 17:08, S Moonesamy a écrit : > Hi Alexandre, > >> I think the organisations in charge should gracefully remove .su from >> DNS and provide an alternative like .aspiring-country to all those who >> try to become such. Also consider the term 'Union State' used between >> Bel-Rus. > > There is a news article about .io: http://r.elandsys.com/r/78117 > Neither of the two DNS identifiers are the work of the I*TF. Why > should this IRTF group be part of the discussion space? I did not know the .io problem - thanks! Can I suppose that the .io problem is not as accute because of the following reason: they are not at war. Can I dare to think for a moment that it is not because there are many similar problems that they are not problems? Is the potential solution to the problem of .io to remove .io and replace it by something else? Or is the solution to give the .io to somebody else? As for IRTF and .su: Hmm, it might be that a research could be performed to understand the human rights implications of using a wrong (false) domain name .su - this '.su' represents nothing, a non existent object; but because nothing is really 'nothing', it can be said that it has been populated by some people who might want .su to actually mean something. Maybe the space was free because of inattention and someoe occupied for cheap. And there lies a problem. The domain is in use out of lack of knowledge. A crispation already exists there in that use of .su. Maybe it is too much away from what IRTF might be interested in doing. In that case, I still wonder where else could this wrongness and possible evolution towards righteousness (migration, smooth for users, the humans) of .su could be discussed. The idea would be to delete .su but migrate the websites to some other domain, such that the humans (end users) still access the content. There are also aspects of the .fr (written in russian) domain that could be discussed as well about human rights and entitlements (.fr in russian text stands for Federation of Russia, but in latin characters it stands for France; this potential confusion, that nobody seems to do, might have some implications; it might be that new names should be proposed such as to balance a 'primacy' such as to not hurt anyone's feelings; were they to be called '.fra' for France and '.fedru' for Russia, or even '.rusfed' in their own language, then there would be no confusion problem; other solutions are possible; all these might have impacts on human rights. Alex > > Regards, > S. Moonesamy
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