Re: [hrpc] re history lessons

On 03-05-2021 16:43, Sandra Braman wrote:
> Point taken, Niels, re the archive -- have read most of it but will ensure it is all read and reviewed for its attention to this particular question; will return to the list if questions remain.

One of the reasons was that security considerations are mandatory for RFCs since 1989, and privacy consideration are not obligatory. Thus referring to security considerations could have set the bar too high for the work on human rights considerations guidelines. More on the relation between security and privacy considerations can be found in the excellent work by Nick Doty on this:

Doty, Nick. “Reviewing for Privacy in Internet and Web Standard-Setting.” In Security and Privacy Workshops (SPW), 2015 IEEE, 185–92. IEEE, 2015.

Doty, Nick. “Enacting Privacy in Internet Standards.” University of California, Berkeley, 2020. https://npdoty.name/enacting-privacy/.

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> Another, if I may -- It turns out, according to Mallory and others, code 451 has not actually been useful. What do members of this group make out of the fact that only one RFC since publication of 8280 has addressed human rights considerations, and that was the right to bear arms?  Is it expected that publication of the guidelines document currently in progress will make a difference?  Any advice regarding where I can turn for explanations of this?

Many more drafts have actually been reviewed (with the methodology that is described in the guidelines document), which has impacted drafts. The end-goal is not to get a section, but for the actual considerations to have been made [0].

Best,

Niels

[0] A couple of examples can be found here: https://gitlab.com/gurshabad/documents/-/tree/master

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> Sandra
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