Re: [http-auth] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-httpauth-hoba-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 09 January 2015 08:44 UTC

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Subject: Re: [http-auth] Richard Barnes' Discuss on draft-ietf-httpauth-hoba-09: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On 2015-01-09 09:27, Richard Barnes wrote:
> ...
> Julian,
>
> Rather than cookies, my concern was that this authentication scheme
> isn't scoped to the authenticating resource.  In addition to the
> authenticating resource, the authentication process needs to have access
> to the resource .well-known/hoba/register on the same host.  Does that
> cause you any architectural concern?

It's workable unless the resource space is shared by multiple services, 
such as in Web application server.

> I cleared because I felt like I could live with it for Experimental.
> This pattern would not fly with me for PS.
> ...

I agree that it we'd want to think about a better approach.

Best regards, Julian