Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering
David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> Wed, 20 January 2010 05:21 UTC
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From: David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com>
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Subject: Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering
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On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Adam Barth wrote: > On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 8:51 PM, David Morris <dwm@xpasc.com> wrote: >> On Tue, 19 Jan 2010, Adam Barth wrote: >>> Ticket 3 is still open for discussion, but I'd like to get started >>> talking the next ticket: >>> http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/httpstate/trac/ticket/5 >>> >>> == Overview == >>> >>> Currently the draft defines the order in which cookies should appear >>> in the Cookie header. In particular, cookies are ordered first by the >>> length of the Path attribute (longest first) and then by creation date >>> (earliest first). The majority of the most widely used user agents >>> use this ordering. (I can look up exactly which browsers follow the >>> ordering if that's important.) >>> >>> Sending cookies with longer (i.e., more specific) paths first is >>> important for compatibly because some servers host multiple (mutually >>> trusting) web applications at different (possibly overlapping) paths. >> >> I think 'longer' is not a precise term ... likewise, 'more specific' isn't >> precise enough to avoid confusion. I think what would be expected is that >> the path sith the most 'levels' (as noted by '/' characters) is longer in a >> deeper into the hierarachy sense. Same depth, the age rule could apply. >> >> If 'more specific' is already defined similar to what I've outlined, >> you can igore this comment. > > In this case, all the cookie paths are prefixes of the Request-URI > path, so these all amount to the same thing. FWIW, longer is a > precise term: literally the one whose path attribute contains more > characters. More characters doesn't seem like the right definition, even if it works most of the time. If the argument is, as you've made, that the requirement is for a server to handle cookies in the most precise order ... it will be related to logical depth of the hierarchy and not character length.
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- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering David Morris
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering David Morris
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Dan Winship
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Dan Winship
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Maciej Stachowiak
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Anne van Kesteren
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Dan Witte
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Paul E. Jones
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Achim Hoffmann
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Dan Witte
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Achim Hoffmann
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering Achim Hoffmann