Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 posted
Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com> Mon, 15 March 2010 16:07 UTC
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From: Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:06:48 -0700
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Subject: Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 posted
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA) <yngve@opera.com> wrote: > On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 07:06:40 +0100, Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com> wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera >> Software ASA) <yngve@opera.com> wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:50:57 +0100, Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> My understanding is that Monday is the deadline for uploading I-Ds >>>> before IETF77. I've uploaded the latest version of the draft: >>>> >>>> http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05.txt >>>> >>>> If you're going to IETF77, this is the version of the draft that we'll >>>> be discussing. Looking forward to seeing many of you there. >>> >>> Yet another possible issue, not sure if it has been mentioned in the >>> group >>> before (I have discussed it with others off-list): >>> >>> * cookie-name should not be allowed to start with "$". I would prefer a >>> MUST >>> NOT, but a SHOULD NOT might be sufficient. >> >> Do you mean that servers SHOULD NOT send cookie names that start with >> $ or are you recommending some conformance requirement for user >> agents? > > Mostly as a server requirement. > > Unless the requirement on servers is MUST NOT, it is not possible to add a > requirement for clients. Although, if there is also text saying that clients > MAY refuse cookies with names starting with $, that would certainly > emphasize the point (and would be useful for clients supporting RFC 2965 or > the proposed $Origin attribute). We've decided as a general principle that servers ought to be allowed to use the full protocol specified in Section 5. That implies we'd add this requirement as a "SHOULD NOT" for servers. > RFC 2109 also says about name > > NAMEs that begin with $ are reserved for > other uses and must not be used by applications. > > Admittedly it is only only using small letters, but maybe it is time to > strengthen that language? RFC 2109 says a lot of nonsense. I'd rather focus on the facts on the ground when making decisions. Adam
- [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 posted Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Julian Reschke
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Julian Reschke
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… David Morris
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Daniel Stenberg
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Paul E. Jones
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Adam Barth
- Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 p… Dan Witte