Re: [http-state] Summary of discussion of Ticket 5 (Cookie ordering)

Dan Winship <dan.winship@gmail.com> Fri, 16 April 2010 18:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [http-state] Summary of discussion of Ticket 5 (Cookie ordering)
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On 04/16/2010 02:14 PM, Daniel Stenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010, Adam Barth wrote:
> 
>> The spec already requires that servers not depend on the ordering.
> 
> But only in a half-baked way. If we really wanted servers to not rely on
> the order we should not tell clients to sort them in any particular way.
> Since what is the point in sorting cookies when nobody is supposed to
> rely on the order?

The same as the point in parsing incorrectly formatted dates when nobody
is supposed to send anything but the correct format.

-- Dan