Re: [http-state] http-state charter

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 05 August 2009 01:26 UTC

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FWIW -

Almost every discussion I've had with people in the IETF regarding  
cookies could be characterised as "we need to document how cookies  
actually work."

I would encourage people on this list to discuss how to make that  
happen, and not to try to second-guess the IETF process, what will and  
will not be acceptable to the IESG, etc; we'll get there soon enough.

Cheers,


On 04/08/2009, at 1:41 PM, Pascal Gaudette wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I'm very new to both this list and the IETF, but I wanted to ask a  
> question that might have been discussed in the past, possibly even  
> face to face during IETF meetings...
>
> The members of this list are currently discussing what type of  
> standards document the WG might end up writing.  But has there been  
> any thought given to the development of a set of whitebox user-agent  
> tests that could be deployed on a domain and used to *document*  
> currently deployed user-agent behavior? (IE produce a table of  
> observed behavior vrs user-agent and test case.)
>
> I would see this as a very useful deliverable for the working group  
> to produce prior to any specification document, and I can see myself  
> adding test cases to such a test suite (provided it is written in a  
> language I am familliar with).  I am currently in the process of  
> trying to implement cookie support in a simple user-agent as part of  
> Google's Summer of Code and such a suite would be very useful to  
> me... Many members of this list probably have extensive knowledge of  
> user-agent behavior, both where they converge and where they  
> diverge.  Deploying such a test suite would allow the gathering of  
> all such knowledge in a single, public place.
>
> Unless such a thing already exists, in which case I shall be very  
> happy to be provided with a pointer...
>
> Just some thoughts,
> -- 
> Pascal Gaudette <acajou@gmail.com>
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