Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering
"Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen" <yngve@opera.com> Mon, 08 February 2010 16:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [http-state] Ticket 5: Cookie ordering
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On Fri, 05 Feb 2010 13:56:58 +0100, Yngve Nysaeter Pettersen <yngve@opera.com> wrote: > IOW, if ordering is determined by anything but the domain and path the > sequence of cookie is going to vary depending on which servers the > clients visits and the sequence it visits them, and this might cause > significant problems for a server that considers ordering significant. Some testing by a couple of my colleagues setting two cookies with the same name (and path) "host-only" and "domain-wide" have found the following in browsers other than Opera: ----- Visit order: Host-only, domain-wide Cookie order: "host-only", "domain-wide" ----- ----- Visit order: domain-wide, Host-only Cookie order (IE): "host-only", "domain-wide" Cookie order (Others): "domain-wide", "host-only" ----- To me it looks like IE is sorting by domain, at the same path level, with FF and Safari (the two tested) sort on creation data. The consequence is that there is apparently three deployed ways to send cookies: - Cookies at the same path level are grouped and sorted by creation date, earliest first (FF&co) - Cookies at the same path level are grouped and sorted by domain, most specific first (IE) - Cookies are grouped by domain (most specific first), then sorted by path (most specific first) within each domain (Opera) IMO the creation date method is less predictable than the other two, and will cause problems for sites depending on a specific sequence of cookies. My suggestion would be that the spec should recommend ordering an ordering based on on both domain and path (order of preference to be decided), as that will be more predictable for sites using multiple cookies with the same name at various domain and path levels. -- Sincerely, Yngve N. Pettersen ******************************************************************** Senior Developer Email: yngve@opera.com Opera Software ASA http://www.opera.com/ Phone: +47 24 16 42 60 Fax: +47 24 16 40 01 ********************************************************************
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