Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 posted

Adam Barth <ietf@adambarth.com> Mon, 15 March 2010 16:09 UTC

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Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:08:53 -0700
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Subject: Re: [http-state] draft-ietf-httpstate-cookie-05 posted
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2010 at 2:54 AM, Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera
Software ASA) <yngve@opera.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010 09:16:47 +0100, Daniel Stenberg <daniel@haxx.se> wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Mar 2010, Yngve N. Pettersen (Developer Opera Software ASA)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> * cookie-name should not be allowed to start with "$". I would prefer a
>>> MUST NOT, but a SHOULD NOT might be sufficient.
>>
>> Have anyone tried to check how common such cookie names are? And related:
>> are there existing widely used cookie implementations where using a such a
>> name cause problems?
>
> Our information from our 2008 MAMA <http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/mama/
>> spider run of 3.5 million URLs found 60 URLs that set cookies with names
> starting with $, but there were only 4 name variations, the largest group
> apparently originating with a single web development company with offices in
> North Carolina, South Carolina and Georgia, and websites for
> companies/cities in that area.

Hum...  That makes it sound like we shouldn't add a user agent
requirement on this topic until phase 2.

Adam