Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warning header
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Thu, 28 January 2021 06:39 UTC
Return-Path: <mnot@mnot.net>
X-Original-To: httpapi@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: httpapi@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 106D63A1363 for <httpapi@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:39:19 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.1
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.1 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=mnot.net header.b=CkpH1MPI; dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=messagingengine.com header.b=DD0Yc/B0
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id x7PSiSOsXjq4 for <httpapi@ietfa.amsl.com>; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:39:16 -0800 (PST)
Received: from wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout4-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB9763A1395 for <httpapi@ietf.org>; Wed, 27 Jan 2021 22:39:05 -0800 (PST)
Received: from compute4.internal (compute4.nyi.internal [10.202.2.44]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293D69C4; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:39:05 -0500 (EST)
Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute4.internal (MEProxy); Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:39:05 -0500
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mnot.net; h= content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; s=fm1; bh=H t9Zj9yAUO9O41YHD8v+Hppy/4pjU72AfWNDA6DLAKw=; b=CkpH1MPIBu2xVvq4E zPOeGLUcoi9nrWgnWK7Wr0nOXLClwLzq41h0M+LXXKnVdzF6pn00km0InZk4bbHJ u5FqHCwkoMWzUgwcmndf4LaIlW9Gs1HK4kOTgGXmtXcLlOkeWup6o5LqojS3Qj/3 XqxH47j1emi4i6MilbmWAUIUg+SFWKsuG/6LO+qosmPOYoCcq2vDus5AyiXrqfiO iBJQ4hhF1gIsvu+rwyzXx+VEtR9AklNJgHcmVW3UVSOt+EogxJaC0K+IwjQTCbih C98d0EMEeN802ezffJB2QWHbzNUak7oHUp9uN48yS4mNBceG6honu8ao2G0ptTzK 7L/uQ==
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:content-transfer-encoding:content-type :date:from:in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references :subject:to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender :x-sasl-enc; s=fm1; bh=Ht9Zj9yAUO9O41YHD8v+Hppy/4pjU72AfWNDA6DLA Kw=; b=DD0Yc/B0n+jPe/Mc9TKcfr7S0iyLFxJ+rhLSdgr5seWTHttoW7u4j1YdG Sts/6dh62GJsCz8Z/mxkWFmFi0rSJV2botONJ11rhgxGqIRs/eOCW0Roa/JMtFXv 4gKy6+hQhxlwKKj5++MTEIGyUEf5JfEzfR4WJVm/Dm0i2ZcjRo8Oe0X45MVRYCw/ vAcx7y/U9xopyx76rDS3qMIU5ZaWRJn2IoWn2POk88QXitdPgWC7eWZvYqEIoWoo GaMvUDpa3qJ9CY1ls0ocDXMz+9cQoV5NEg6clYtrmw+OXWjRcp5Ip2ESBi5wXy8c xjvfAeZ65NtH6E9f7P/9JFMvV7huw==
X-ME-Sender: <xms:BlwSYE-jMb_aig22gdMCM-6_4tdEpwrLo1PxkcPoYc0WZ-WbJRO1qg> <xme:BlwSYMoDJXjjJEX_Kr0_5WdqGCVbo5kNc593BfB20kXlCZjOLXrlE281rIEsApZV7 bWac_OQ8dU4j__B-g>
X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgeduledrvdelgdelhecutefuodetggdotefrodftvf curfhrohhfihhlvgemucfhrghsthforghilhdpqfgfvfdpuffrtefokffrpgfnqfghnecu uegrihhlohhuthemuceftddtnecunecujfgurheptggguffhjgffgffkfhfvofesthhqmh dthhdtjeenucfhrhhomhepofgrrhhkucfpohhtthhinhhghhgrmhcuoehmnhhothesmhhn ohhtrdhnvghtqeenucggtffrrghtthgvrhhnpeefgedvgfejgedvteeuudekveefhfehle eiveejjeekhfffheekjeeikeejtdehjeenucffohhmrghinhepihgvthhfrdhorhhgpdhm nhhothdrnhgvthenucfkphepudduledrudejrdduheekrddvhedunecuvehluhhsthgvrh fuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhepmhhnohhtsehmnhhothdrnhgv th
X-ME-Proxy: <xmx:BlwSYG4Oh7Q08tgFB-7JRMujdE2ne1hRns-l4VFpCI4LSnbaXQGReA> <xmx:BlwSYMPliqf0ILL29r9uL1gDq0Qzes91_XjsWRZCwYoO9yzQ4qBmrg> <xmx:BlwSYIMPVBlH0VPDxmZtj5RZqO904-soRzV3FPvj6AK8LVU-DHLYyg> <xmx:CFwSYOJW5HGIzzktTFEill3ZRYA8H_p9IVcVoJO1xwbiJDFyO5iszg>
Received: from [192.168.7.30] (119-17-158-251.77119e.mel.static.aussiebb.net [119.17.158.251]) by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 1D761240057; Thu, 28 Jan 2021 01:39:01 -0500 (EST)
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.40.0.2.32\))
From: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
In-Reply-To: <88ED49DB-E081-4C97-9FB9-080A1C585435@akamai.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 17:38:58 +1100
Cc: "httpapi@ietf.org" <httpapi@ietf.org>
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Message-Id: <C6EF74FA-4987-48EB-8F7B-74EB54C295CD@mnot.net>
References: <88ED49DB-E081-4C97-9FB9-080A1C585435@akamai.com>
To: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.40.0.2.32)
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/httpapi/WbyPH6RTLy9rlV26IpQE8NiN5VE>
Subject: Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warning header
X-BeenThere: httpapi@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Building Blocks for HTTP APIs <httpapi.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/httpapi>, <mailto:httpapi-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/httpapi/>
List-Post: <mailto:httpapi@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:httpapi-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/httpapi>, <mailto:httpapi-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Jan 2021 06:39:19 -0000
Hi, I've re-read this draft. I don't understand what the use case is -- specifically, what benefit exposing this information in a header field brings. The JSON format described can already be used, and is identified with a distinct media type; that should be enough to indicate to a recipient that the content of the message is a problem. Are there cases where it's expected that generic HTTP software (e.g., an intermediary) separate from the application in question is going to need to know this information? That's the usual reason for standardising a header field (the other being that the format doesn't accommodate that information in question, but that doesn't seem to be the case here). Cheers, > On 11 Dec 2020, at 3:07 am, Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > At our meeting at IETF 109, we discussed > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-cedik-http-warning-02 > > Let’s discuss this (we didn’t have enough time at the virtual). Feel free to use this thread or start new ones. > -- > httpapi mailing list > httpapi@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/httpapi -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
- [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warning … Salz, Rich
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… Erik Wilde
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… Darrel Miller
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… Roberto Polli
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… André Cedik
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… André Cedik
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… Mark Nottingham
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… Roberto Polli
- Re: [httpapi] Discussion of adopting Content-Warn… Asbjørn Ulsberg