Re: Specifying Range in Link preload header for HTTP/2 Push?

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 12 July 2019 17:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: Specifying Range in Link preload header for HTTP/2 Push?
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On 09.07.2019 18:55, Roger Pantos wrote:
> Greetings HTTP experts,
>
> I’m interested in employing HTTP/2 Push of Range requests for media streaming. It seems like the core h2 protocol handles this well enough; the PUSH_PROMISE can contain a Range header, and at the very least if that ends up in the client push cache then a request for that exact Range should match.
>
> That being said, I’d also like to signal the push request to downstream HTTP caches. Push is typically signaled via the Link header with rel=preload, but https://www.w3.org/TR/preload/ doesn’t seem to define signaling and associated Range.
>
> Has anyone defined a Link extension to signal an associated Range?
>
> If not, would anyone object to the following Link extension?
>
> range-link-extension = “range” = ranges-specifier
>
> where ranges-specifier is defined in RFC 2616.
>
> An example would be:
>
> Link: </media.mp4>; rel=preload; as=video; type=video/mp4; range=1380-14226
> ...

Nitpicking: if you do this, please consider range units other than
"bytes".  For instance, by embedding the range unit name into the parameter:

Link: </media.mp4>; rel=preload; as=video; type=video/mp4;
range-bytes=1380-14226

Best regards, Julian