Re: HTTP router point-of-view concerns

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Fri, 19 July 2013 17:23 UTC

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, Nico Williams writes:
>On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 6:44 AM, Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> wrote:
>> I have given a concrete example multiple times, it's very simple:
>
>So you think all session state should always be stored on the server, period?
>
>It's hard to disagree, but I was under the impression that many
>services need to be stateless (storing session state in encrypted
>cookies) for various reasons.

In the post-EU-regulation, post-PRISM-world, "various reasons" need
to be "Very Good Reasons" for this practice to continue.


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