Re: HTTPS 2.0 without TLS extension?

William Chan (陈智昌) <willchan@chromium.org> Tue, 23 July 2013 17:36 UTC

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FWIW, it seems reasonable to me to have the spec allow HTTPS 2.0 without
TLS extension. If you want to Upgrade, be my guest. I have no plans for my
browser to support that, and I don't think Google servers will support it
either, because we care strongly about the advantages of TLS-ALPN vs
Upgrade.

IIRC, Twitter doesn't use NPN for the same reasons (lack of TLS extension
support on certain mobile clients). I believe they don't care about public
interop though, they just use dedicated VIPs with clients they control.


On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 5:06 AM, Zhong Yu <zhong.j.yu@gmail.com> wrote:

> The draft mandates TLS extension ALPN for any https 2.0 connections,
> but why is that necessary? Why can't we also establish an https 2.0
> connection through the Upgrade mechanism, without ALPN? TLS extension
> may not be available/convenient on some platforms for some time;
> requiring it may discourage some potential implementers.
>
> Zhong Yu
>
>