Re: WebSocket2
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Van Catha <vans554@gmail.com>: (Mon Oct 3 19:39:34 2016) > About Proxies: > ~ > I assumed the concern was with forward / reverse proxies like NGINX > forwarding http/2 to http. > > Afaik HTTP/2 browser only allow using TLS, so a HTTP transparent proxy will > not be able to "proxy" anything unless the reverse proxy serves a MITM > certificate. I do not think this is a common enough use case. You can avoid complications of forward proxy if you define WebSocket2 only for wss: -scheme (which implies TLS). On case of ws: -scheme request of HTTP/2 is interpreted by forward proxy. Forward proxy uses :scheme, and :authority to determine what host and port to connect and which protocol to use. ( If browsers use HTTP/2 only for https connections, then ws: means HTTP/1.1 for Websockect protocol negation I guess. ) I do not know if any browser is using HTTP/2 for connection to configured proxy. I guess that they use HTTP/1.1 on here. Is there HTTP/2 forward proxies either? (‡) ( Some browsers can use TLS on connection to configured proxy. ) Anyway these parts which process HTTP/2 frames must understand that DATA -frames are not HTTP request / response body. Instead they behave same way than with :method = CONNECT (and no :scheme or :path). Situation what I was looking was +---------------------------+ | Web browser or other | | WebSockect client | +---------------------------+ ⇓ ⇓ +---------------------------+ | forward proxy configure | ( client uses CONNECT | on client | tunnel if encypted scheme ) +---------------------------+ ⇓ ⇓ +---------------------------+ | reverse proxy for | ( may include TLS offloading, | :authority | if encryption is used ) +---------------------------+ ⇓ ⇓ +---------------------------+ | origin server | | | +---------------------------+ I think that is is common network architecture. I'm ignoring transparent proxies and MITM of TLS here. / Kari Hurtta (‡) nghttp2 as forward proxy needs http/1.1 proxy which it uses for proxy functionality nginx seems mention only reverse proxy.
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- Re: WebSocket2 Kari hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Van Catha
- Re: WebSocket2 Ilari Liusvaara
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- Re: WebSocket2 Kari Hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Kari hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: WebSocket2 Kari Hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: WebSocket2 Kari Hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Ilari Liusvaara
- Re: WebSocket2 Kari Hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Van Catha
- Re: WebSocket2 Kari Hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Alex Rousskov
- :method | Re: WebSocket2 Kari Hurtta
- Re: WebSocket2 Takeshi Yoshino
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- tunnel | Re: WebSocket2 Kari Hurtta
- Re: tunnel | Re: WebSocket2 Martin Thomson
- Re: WebSocket2 Takeshi Yoshino
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- Re: WebSocket2 Van Catha
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