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Tue, 19 Mar 2024 09:19:04 +0100 Message-ID: <996a0f1c-dac6-4418-87de-03acf571f5c1@gmx.de> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2024 09:19:03 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Content-Language: en-US To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org References: From: Julian Reschke In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:KwCnZwnKo5l1yJOmqP7HxOZ5umu2Zrff9HtIiPGhpV13GegFUnN Jq0QYDsitn/gvh2VK55BkYUifhh3mtNPK7wo1cxaB68d4IkKydZdttEuk/WV1AD+tYAwxuU ns57gYFF6dEXED1SVBbhLcv7qO53ZvJxSxfRThBRJdAMfLfL+nUDfRpxjWIjsEMcJnFxDlx jlK5HtMOSrGLqOT1TGRAw== UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:L4jqHG2oL8s=;ZN2h3sMQvKlojtdSsLza4skYOxN LE74bPHxGmRtun12Wx0Ay9S9SX+X+9dh+47GOAlw4epJR9H4C9xiyEdFUwXSgcAV+nePKvMM0 actMYhMVA7s0oMBiUTU2XdDuVNYX0sblkVK8TewbtBQANb6wHGPLt0vXwhfq90eAfHIUu5+1o onc4A5U+IYDbhMcWbpbkMLTQ1JSfTxXhEgTeyAzel3K8f9f30CfMEfsqnOciAfyjSxwNgghAb IyVH63IWJgEk5KxAG+qqQ2mu9e/lnMn95lGRStUK988dMTVePuo8NJHN8l7Nlkft+pA6eUCx7 nfql8jrgVWYVGaW9Syd/Yo2/k0zOPWlYybvncpLxzkHbgSMisNY+7U2k3sHrTYyywW5ClzFoT 2+zPhb8tvyYiv7ydicpRY/ZLDknm/xd/oLsLVYCcXMsjNnSsHKYP78LJY3eYsRpbyi5Ln29kT CoxXVkGiec4ZqUkornv/YD7+DQzZUDcbWxCZkr3rZqyGyD8Yw2qbBSrvp916/7hqX4GT2oZ34 WMw3CYxYqJYQB0h9D010ShXIrnMCRseMXhOBFskBtCu3GI5tFRiF4mVSshbZLSPZi7o9h+Y+J HHgbVkeUMGS8ch2VsFmsRegiqs0vPwAcSt/Iid7ic/JUeRX0hV/O6foBk/ywbb+od5sNn6z8K JKf6vttz/kHU4ZlqpevvRR15nQ1lzitjQyCDzlpZLpkt3gaFS2HKJu9bMCoCqZ9zZDr3yjwsW TLEgCkKxm1LRdqA/7LmKVe5BT12gSpnyvk2zl2oPk6XPpFL33t4jUbdQ2glA8kAEVJSUpY7b6 zKAOYc3nXeHuyrk3lmuOO5nQuf9uCjKqh9pIoh6UgWLk8= X-W3C-Hub-DKIM-Status: validation passed: (address=julian.reschke@gmx.de domain=gmx.de), signature is good X-W3C-Hub-DKIM-Status: validation passed: (address=julian.reschke@gmx.de domain=julian.reschke@gmx.de), signature is good X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.1 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, DMARC_PASS=-0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, RCVD_IN_ZEN_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001, URIBL_DBL_BLOCKED_OPENDNS=0.001, W3C_AA=-1, W3C_IRA=-1, W3C_WL=-1 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: pan.w3.org 1rmUgf-00D4Oa-0m 1075a10900ee0a4df275941e94046bce X-Original-To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org Subject: Re: HTTP QUERY Design Team / Side Meeting Archived-At: Resent-From: ietf-http-wg@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/51902 X-Loop: ietf-http-wg@w3.org Resent-Sender: ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: On 19.03.2024 00:17, Glenn Strauss wrote: > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 04:45:58PM +1000, Mark Nottingham wrote: >> We've scheduled a side meeting room on Thursday afternoon from 5-6pm (B= risbane time) to discuss the HTTP QUERY specification issues in more depth= . >> >> If you're interested in contributing to this work, please come along; w= e'll be in M9. > > I have some interest, but am not in Brisbane, and I think that would be > about 3am US/Eastern. (No, thanks. :)) > > Some questions about the latest draft: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-httpbis-safe-method-w-b= ody > > 2. Query > [...] >> The semantics of the QUERY method change to a "conditional QUERY" if th= e request message includes an If-Modified-Since, If-Unmodified- Since, If-= Match, If-None-Match, or If-Range header field ([HTTP], Section 13). A con= ditional QUERY requests that the query be performed only under the circums= tances described by the conditional header field(s). It is important to no= te, however, that such conditions are evaluated against the state of the t= arget resource itself as opposed to the collected results of the search op= eration. > > "search operation" or "query operation"? > There are three instances of "search" still in the doc, including this o= ne. I'll fix that. > ... Good points, and these are some of the reasons why we haven't made a lot of progress since. Defining conditionals and cacheability is non-trivial. Best regards, Julian