Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem
"Nicolas Mailhot" <nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net> Wed, 02 July 2014 09:26 UTC
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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 11:23:38 +0200
From: Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net>
To: Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, "\"William Chan (陈智昌)\"" <willchan@chromium.org>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
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Subject: Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem
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Le Mar 1 juillet 2014 08:55, Mark Nottingham a écrit : Mark, > I appreciate you're concerned about the CONTINUATION issue, but using it > to derail other discussions isn't appropriate. In the defence of PHK he seems to be the only one defending the http users at large and not the subset present here > Also, emotive language like "bogus misfeatures" and "blackmail" doesn't > help make decisions; it's just a distraction. Please refrain. Because > In order to prevent the extension mechanism from failing (due to > intermediaries whitelisting extensions and disallowing all others, or some > other sort of brokenness) is not emotive and a distraction? Do you not understand still that websocket and other attempts to force some classes of traffic through security equipments didn't fail because of some technical default in those equipments, but because those equipments were deployed to block those classes of traffic in the first place? And that any attempt to force the issue in http2 will result in the same outcome for this new protocol? And BTW, in what way PHK's characterisation of > A vendor that owned both an auto-updating client and popular website > could enforce this. is not perfectly accurate? Regards, -- Nicolas Mailhot
- Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mark Nottingham
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mark Nottingham
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Cory Benfield
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Patrick McManus
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Jason Greene
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Willy Tarreau
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Jeff Pinner
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Willy Tarreau
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Jason Greene
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Johnny Graettinger
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Willy Tarreau
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem James Adjamli
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Jeff Pinner
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Willy Tarreau
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Willy Tarreau
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Adrian Cole
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem James M Snell
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Nicolas Mailhot
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Nicolas Mailhot
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Eric J. Bowman
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Nicolas Mailhot
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mark Nottingham
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Greg Wilkins
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mark Nottingham
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Greg Wilkins
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Peter Ghosh
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- RE: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Bishop
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem William Chan (陈智昌)
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Mike Belshe
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Changing the Internet was: Encouraging a healthy … Roland Zink
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Yoav Nir
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Greg Wilkins
- Re: Encouraging a healthy HTTP/2 ecosystem Poul-Henning Kamp