Re: Reference set in HPACK
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Wed, 02 July 2014 05:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: Reference set in HPACK
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Hi Kazu, As I understand it, one of the purposes of the reference set is to accommodate cases where intermediaries multiplex requests from different clients -- thus having different cookies, UAs, etc. -- into one upstream connection. Does your test data reflect this kind of use case? Regards, On 2 Jul 2014, at 3:30 pm, Kazu Yamamoto (山本和彦) <kazu@iij.ad.jp> wrote: > Hi, > > As you may remember, I implemented several HPACK *encoding* algorithms > and calculated compression ratio. I tried it again based on HPACK > 08. I have 8 algorithms. > > - Naive -- No compression > - Naive-H -- Using Huffman only > - Static -- Using static table only > - Static-H -- Using static table and Huffman > - Linear -- Using header table > - Linear-H -- Using header table and Huffman > - Diff -- Using header table and reference set > - Diff-H -- Using header table, reference set and Huffman > > The implementations above pass all test cases in > https://github.com/http2jp/hpack-test-case/. Using this test cases as > input, I calculated compression ratio again. The ratio is calculated > by dividing the number of bytes after compression by that before > compression. > > Here is results: > > Naive 1.10 > Naive-H 0.86 > Static 0.84 > Static-H 0.66 > Linear 0.39 > Linear-H 0.31 > Diff 0.39 > Diff-H 0.31 > > Linear-H and Diff-H results in almost the same. To my calculation, > Diff-H is only 1.6 byte shorter than Linear-H in average. This means > that reference set does NOT much contribute to compress headers > although it is very difficult to implement. > > I have NOT seen any header examples for which reference set work > effectively so far. > > So, if the authors of HPACK want to retain reference set, I would like > to see evidence that there are some cases in which reference set > contributes the compression ratio. HPACK 08 says "Updated Huffman > table, using data set provided by Google". So, I guess that the > authors can calculate the compression ratio based on this data. > > If there is not such an evidence, I would like to strongly recommend > to remove reference set from HPACK. This makes HPACK much simpler, so > implementations gets bug less and inter-operability is improved. Plus, > the order of headers is reserved always. > > Regards, > > --Kazu > > > > > -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
- Reference set in HPACK Kazu Yamamoto ( 山本和彦 )
- Re: Reference set in HPACK Roberto Peon
- Re: Reference set in HPACK Mark Nottingham
- Re: Reference set in HPACK Kazu Yamamoto ( 山本和彦 )
- Re: Reference set in HPACK Kazu Yamamoto ( 山本和彦 )
- Re: Reference set in HPACK Kazu Yamamoto ( 山本和彦 )
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