Re: #428 Accept-Language ordering for identical qvalues

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Fri, 18 January 2013 09:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: #428 Accept-Language ordering for identical qvalues
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On 2013-01-18 09:46, Amos Jeffries wrote:
> ...
> ...
> I'm with Roy on this one. It's not adding any new requirement about
> interpretation, simply stating that the list is ordered, as is actually
> the case from most senders.
> There is no requirement added/removed about server interpretation so
> those servers implementing random selection out of the ordered set are
> still compliant. Those servers implementing ordered interpretation are
 > ...

They are? How so?

If the client sends

	Accept-Language: en, de

and the server returns German text, although English would have been 
available, is it still compliant?

> now compliant - where before with the list defined as un-ordered they
> would be non-compliant due to mis-interpreting an un-ordered list as
> ordered.

That doesn't make sense, sorry.

If the list ordering is defined to be irrelevant it's totally ok to pick 
the first match.

> ...
>> Right now they interoperate as specified by the spec. If we change the
>> spec, they do not anymore (or only some of the time).
>>
>
> The new spec does not forbid random selection. Merely states that the
> client *wants* it to be interpreted non-randomly. Obeying that client
> preference is still optional.
> ...

Again, that doesn't make any sense at all.

If we say that the list is ordered by preference (in absence of 
qvalues), this implies that a recipient should pick the *first* matching 
language. If it does not, it's not interpreting the message as defined.

Best regards, Julian