Re: Authentication over HTTP

"Nicolas Mailhot" <nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net> Wed, 17 July 2013 11:14 UTC

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From: Nicolas Mailhot <nicolas.mailhot@laposte.net>
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>> 2) "HTTP auth is broken". Aka the headers dont let me login user X to
>> proxy A
>> and proxy B at the same time, in the same chain, with different
>> credentials
>> all controlled by user X ... seem to be making a few wrong assumptions
>> about
>> how HTTP works there. Go away and do (1) instead the user-application ha
>> sa
>> lot more control over end-to-end pathways in application layer.
>>
>> What am I missing?

That we have standards to permit interoperability, and go away and do it
elsewhere is the perfect interop killer?

-- 
Nicolas Mailhot