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Re: Draft v1 Update for Resumable Uploads

Eric J Bowman <mellowmutt@zoho.com> Mon, 20 June 2022 08:59 UTC

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Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2022 01:56:38 -0700
From: Eric J Bowman <mellowmutt@zoho.com>
To: Eric J Bowman <mellowmutt@zoho.com>
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>

> Bound to be fresh if it's resident on the origin server, no? 

> Come to think of it, the entity body could list additional target 

> URIs... apply googly-eye filter to all kitty pics. Haha, lolz, now 

> revert on all non-Hitler kitties.

>









I'm not suggesting to change RFC 5789 regarding atomicity of the transaction. However, this is the first use-case I've come up with for server push. I want a 204 back for each file, or directory, listed in my PATCH entity-body. Then I can re-send individual requests for any missing links, after an appropriate timeout.



Note that while my example takes 2-3 round trips to implement, the result can be pretty much an infinite number of files PATCHed. Maybe PATCH _can_ be anarchically scalable? When needed.


-Eric

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