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I feel like we still have some open questions around stream lifetimes. If
we do not have consensus here yet, I think it'd be advisable to pencil in
time on the agenda to discuss this.


On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> > As you can probably guess, we haven't been able to get implementations
> moving before this Interim, but I'd very much like to exit it being able to
> get there quickly.
> >
> > With that in mind, I've asked the editors to publish a draft -03 by
> early next week, to give everyone enough time to review the draft.
> >
> > Likewise, I've asked Herve and Roberto to get their header proposal(s)
> lined up and ready for discussion at the F2F.
> >
>
> While I wasn't asked to have it "lined up and ready for discussion",
> the current bohe header proposal will be updated one more time before
> the F2F and will be ready for discussion. Specifically, the typed
> codecs portion is pretty much done and ready to go.
>
> > Please come into the meeting having read ALL of those documents
> carefully (once updated), as well as the issues list <
> https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/issues>.
> >
> > If there are particular issues that you believe are important to get
> sorted out for the first implementation draft, please bring them up on-list
> BEFORE the meeting, so that we can make that time as productive as
> possible. The current list of such issues is <
> https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/issues?milestone=1&page=1&state=open>
> >
> > A _rough_ agenda for discussion:
> >
> > * Administrivia
> >    - Blue sheets
> >    - Introductions
> >    - Scribe Selection
> >    - Agenda Bashing
> >    - NOTE WELL
> >    - Ground rules for the meeting
> > * Document review [editors]
> >   - Open editors' questions
> > * Header compression
> > * Server push walkthrough
> >    * PUSH_PROMISE
> > * Flow Control overview
> > * Prioritisation review
> > * Upgrade / negotiation
> > * Other issue discussion
> >[snip]
>
> Frame sizing, Unknown frame handling (clarification of must-ignore
> rule), and max concurrent streams ought to be included as well.
>
> - James
>
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">I feel like we still have some open questions around strea=
m lifetimes. If we do not have consensus here yet, I think it&#39;d be advi=
sable to pencil in time on the agenda to discuss this.</div><div class=3D"g=
mail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM, James M=
 Snell <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jasnell@gmail.com" target=3D=
"_blank">jasnell@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gm=
ail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-le=
ft:1ex">
<div class=3D"im">On Sun, May 19, 2013 at 8:54 PM, Mark Nottingham &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:mnot@mnot.net">mnot@mnot.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; As you can probably guess, we haven&#39;t been able to get implementat=
ions moving before this Interim, but I&#39;d very much like to exit it bein=
g able to get there quickly.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; With that in mind, I&#39;ve asked the editors to publish a draft -03 b=
y early next week, to give everyone enough time to review the draft.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Likewise, I&#39;ve asked Herve and Roberto to get their header proposa=
l(s) lined up and ready for discussion at the F2F.<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
</div>While I wasn&#39;t asked to have it &quot;lined up and ready for disc=
ussion&quot;,<br>
the current bohe header proposal will be updated one more time before<br>
the F2F and will be ready for discussion. Specifically, the typed<br>
codecs portion is pretty much done and ready to go.<br>
<div class=3D"im"><br>
&gt; Please come into the meeting having read ALL of those documents carefu=
lly (once updated), as well as the issues list &lt;<a href=3D"https://githu=
b.com/http2/http2-spec/issues" target=3D"_blank">https://github.com/http2/h=
ttp2-spec/issues</a>&gt;.<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; If there are particular issues that you believe are important to get s=
orted out for the first implementation draft, please bring them up on-list =
BEFORE the meeting, so that we can make that time as productive as possible=
. The current list of such issues is &lt;<a href=3D"https://github.com/http=
2/http2-spec/issues?milestone=3D1&amp;page=3D1&amp;state=3Dopen" target=3D"=
_blank">https://github.com/http2/http2-spec/issues?milestone=3D1&amp;page=
=3D1&amp;state=3Dopen</a>&gt;<br>

&gt;<br>
&gt; A _rough_ agenda for discussion:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; * Administrivia<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0- Blue sheets<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0- Introductions<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0- Scribe Selection<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0- Agenda Bashing<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0- NOTE WELL<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0- Ground rules for the meeting<br>
&gt; * Document review [editors]<br>
&gt; =A0 - Open editors&#39; questions<br>
&gt; * Header compression<br>
&gt; * Server push walkthrough<br>
&gt; =A0 =A0* PUSH_PROMISE<br>
&gt; * Flow Control overview<br>
&gt; * Prioritisation review<br>
&gt; * Upgrade / negotiation<br>
&gt; * Other issue discussion<br>
</div>&gt;[snip]<br>
<br>
Frame sizing, Unknown frame handling (clarification of must-ignore<br>
rule), and max concurrent streams ought to be included as well.<br>
<span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br>
- James<br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div>

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