Re: GOAWAY clarification
Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Mon, 23 March 2015 20:00 UTC
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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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Thanks Mike, On 23 March 2015 at 11:54, Mike Bishop <Michael.Bishop@microsoft.com> wrote: > One inconsistency in the revised text: You still say at line 2444 that initiating new requests "is inadvisable." It's not just inadvisable, it's MUST NOT at line 2353. Fixed. > I'll also note that the seamless hand-off is a perfect reason for the DRAINING frame extension that was also floated during that discussion -- DRAINING could be defined as a hint that the client should spin up a secondary connection because a GOAWAY is coming soon. No harm if the client doesn't understand or obey it -- the loss is strictly its own. That sounds like a great plan to me. I look forward to someone proposing this extension some day.
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