Re: ENABLE ⇒ PROVIDE | Re: SETTINGS_PRIORITY_SCHEME | Re: Setting to disable HTTP/2 Priorities

Kari Hurtta <hurtta-ietf@elmme-mailer.org> Thu, 01 August 2019 04:09 UTC

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> "Typically"?  In the old testament there is only one 'ENABLE' type setting,
> and its initial value is 1.  The extended canon introduces a single new
> setting that works the other way.

I stand corrected.

> But yeah. what's significant about them is, 1 or 0, what they say is: "the
> recipient of this setting must/must not send a frame of this type".  I.e.
> the sender of the setting says, "I will/won't understand these frames".
> It's not "I will/won't *send* them myself."  I think that means we're
> agreeing that 'ENABLE' isn't the right word.

Yes.

/ Kari Hurtta