Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1619021F8F4D for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 07:27:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -7.197 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-7.197 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[AWL=0.948, BAYES_00=-2.599, FRT_ADOBE2=2.455, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IOUxGfVFv8wp for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 07:27:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42FA921F8EED for ; Wed, 15 May 2013 07:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ucceo-0003Md-6N for ietf-http-wg-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 14:26:18 +0000 Resent-Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 14:26:18 +0000 Resent-Message-Id: Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1Ucceb-0003Lp-A1 for ietf-http-wg@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 14:26:05 +0000 Received: from mailhost.informatik.uni-bremen.de ([134.102.201.18] helo=informatik.uni-bremen.de) by lisa.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1UcceZ-0003As-Ok for ietf-http-wg@w3.org; Wed, 15 May 2013 14:26:05 +0000 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at informatik.uni-bremen.de Received: from smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de [134.102.224.120]) by informatik.uni-bremen.de (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r4FEPaHt028889; Wed, 15 May 2013 16:25:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [134.102.117.137] (unknown [134.102.117.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp-fb3.informatik.uni-bremen.de (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 1691537A9; Wed, 15 May 2013 16:25:36 +0200 (CEST) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 6.3 \(1503\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 From: Carsten Bormann In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 16:25:35 +0200 Cc: Paul Hoffman , "semtlenori@gmail.com" , "ietf-http-wg@w3.org" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Larry Masinter X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1503) Received-SPF: none client-ip=134.102.201.18; envelope-from=cabo@tzi.org; helo=informatik.uni-bremen.de X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.1 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: AWL=-2.800, FRT_ADOBE2=1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1UcceZ-0003As-Ok 2e72f44af2383b64095b7db4c5dbe96e X-Original-To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org Subject: Re: How to pronounce "charset"? Archived-At: Resent-From: ietf-http-wg@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18002 X-Loop: ietf-http-wg@w3.org Resent-Sender: ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: On May 15, 2013, at 16:09, Larry Masinter wrote: > =93charset=94 is a reference to the media type parameter name Not just a parameter name, it also is a term of art: http://www.w3.org/TR/2005/REC-charmod-20050215/#sec-EncodingIdent It is one of the great accidents in Web and Applications Area = architecture that the term charset was built from the roots of = "character set", which it is only loosely related to, and which in turn = is a bad term by itself because it is not at all a set of characters = either (the actual set is called "character repertoire" in JTC1/SC2 = terms). Gr=FC=DFe, Carsten