Re: #428 Accept-Language ordering for identical qvalues

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Sun, 20 January 2013 23:00 UTC

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On 21/01/2013, at 9:50 AM, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote:

> +1.. in fact, for 2.0, I'd very much like to get rid of q-values entirely and depend entirely on order.

Doing that would lose information; e.g., there's no way to say q=0 in a purely ordered set. 

That may or may not be acceptable, but we need to talk through it.

Cheers,


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