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Re: Permissible states for extension frames #591

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Tue, 12 August 2014 03:04 UTC

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From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
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Greg, this issue has nothing whatsoever to do with CONTINUATIONS, other
than to note that extensions would not be permitted within a sequence of
continuations.
On Aug 11, 2014 5:54 PM, "Greg Wilkins" <gregw@intalio.com> wrote:

>
> On 12 August 2014 08:03, Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Are we OK with this?
>
>
> Not really.
>
> If we are going to have CONTINUATIONs, then either they need to be true
> jumbo frames as currently specified (can't be interleaved by anything) OR
> they should be fully interleaveable by any other frame.   It is entirely
> too complex and fragile to allow continuations to be interleaved by
> extension frames but not normal frames.
>
> Although I guess that would allow an extension to be defined that has a
> bunch of frame types that are identical to normal frame types, except that
> they can be interleaved between continuations when normal ones can't be.
>
> cheers
>
>
>
> --
> Greg Wilkins <gregw@intalio.com>
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