Re: p1: HTTP(S) URIs and fragment identifiers

Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> Sat, 20 April 2013 07:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: p1: HTTP(S) URIs and fragment identifiers
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On 2013-04-20 06:07, Mark Nottingham wrote:
> P1 sections 2.7.1 and 2.7.2 define the HTTP and HTTPS URI schemes without fragment identifiers.
>
> While it's true that HTTP sends these URIs without fragids "on the wire" in the request-target, the schemes *do* allow fragids pretty much everywhere else they're used (including some places in HTTP, e.g., the Location header).
>
> Given that this is going to be the definition for these URI schemes, and we already require that the fragid be omitted in the request-target, shouldn't the syntax allow a fragment identifier?

No.

Fragment identifiers are allowed for *any* URI scheme; the scheme 
definition doesn't need to include it.

Best regards, Julian