Re: timestamps encoding (was: Re: Straw Poll: Restore Header Table and Static Table Indices)
"Martin Nilsson" <nilsson@opera.com> Wed, 22 October 2014 01:17 UTC
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Subject: Re: timestamps encoding (was: Re: Straw Poll: Restore Header Table and Static Table Indices)
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2014 16:24:51 +0200, Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> wrote: > > The example code below converts valid strings to their compacted form > and leaves the non-convertable ones intact. The converted string's format > indicates what format it's in (ie: if it begins with 0xA its a compact > one). > The gains are interesting, just tested on example.com, there are 3 dates > there, 24 bytes each, and reduced to 5 bytes each, that's 57 bytes saved > in one response header (19 bytes saved per valid header). > That's before huffman encoding. Taking a now:ish timestamp of 1413938411 creates the byte sequence 0a.84.89.46.56. These 5 bytes are encoded with 89 bits after huffman encoding, whereas the 10 byte numeric literal "1413938411" is encoded with 56 bits. Not completely fair since you have an encoding token in front, which is needed here to distinguish between time and time offsets. If we pick "t" to mean time, which is encoded with 5 bits, we get 64 bits for your method and 61 bits for ASCII, for this example. For this size of numbers you'll get an average of 4*18.2 = 72.8 bits while ASCII gives 10*5.7 = 57 bits (plus encoding token). /Martin Nilsson -- Using Opera's mail client: http://www.opera.com/mail/
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