Re: Review of draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption-10
Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Mon, 27 February 2017 01:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: Review of draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption-10
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[ editor hat ] That all seems reasonable to me; see: https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/commit/ca56fd8365 https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/commit/31c11b4683 Will incorporate into the next draft when we issue. Thanks! > On 26 Feb 2017, at 12:20 pm, Brian Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote: > > Reviewer: Brian Carpenter > Review result: Ready with Issues > > Gen-ART Last Call review of draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption-10 > > I am the assigned Gen-ART reviewer for this draft. The General Area > Review Team (Gen-ART) reviews all IETF documents being processed > by the IESG for the IETF Chair. Please treat these comments just > like any other last call comments. > > For more information, please see the FAQ at > <http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/area/gen/trac/wiki/GenArtfaq>. > > Document: draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption-10.txt > Reviewer: Brian Carpenter > Review Date: 2017-02-26 > IETF LC End Date: 2017-03-06 > IESG Telechat date: 2017-03-16 > > Summary: Ready with issues > -------- > > Comments: > --------- > > Note: Category is Experimental. > > Quoting the writeup: > > 'The primary concern voiced by dissenters has been that widespread > deployment might provide a false sense of security, slowing the > adoption of "real" HTTPS or confusing users."' > > FWIW, I share that concern, even with the tag 'Experimental.' > > Major issue: > ------------ > > The Abstract should definitely state the above concern. At the > moment, > it could easily mislead the reader about the value of the solution. > I'd like to see the phrase "it is vulnerable to active attacks" in > the Abstract. > > Minor issue: > ------------ > >> 4.4. Confusion Regarding Request Scheme > ... >> Therefore, servers need to carefully examine the use of such > signals >> before deploying this specification. > > What does "servers" really mean here? I think it means "implementers > of server code", or maybe "operators of servers"? > > Nits: > ----- > >> 4.1. Security Indicators >> >> User Agents MUST NOT provide any special security indicia when an > > 'Indicia' is a real word, but I think it's unknown to at least 99% of > English speakers. Why not 'indicators' again? > > > > -- Mark Nottingham https://www.mnot.net/
- Re: Review of draft-ietf-httpbis-http2-encryption… Mark Nottingham