Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications
Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu> Thu, 31 October 2019 17:18 UTC
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From: Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>
To: Bence Béky <bnc@chromium.org>
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Subject: Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications
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On Thu, Oct 31, 2019 at 01:08:53PM -0400, Bence Béky wrote: > Thanks, Willy, for pointing out the different sections of RFC7540 > concerning unknown frame types. It seems to me that for the past few days > Chrome (on certain channels) has been sending frames on half-closed > (remote) streams. It might be worth fixing that and re-running the > experiment. I'll circle back with results if we end up doing that. OK. I have a pending patch ready for testing on the haproxy front which addresses this mismatch. The only thing is that chrome beta doesn't seem to be available on linux so I constantly have to bother other people for testing, which takes time :-/ Regarding the impacts on our uesrs of anoyher test, I'm not much worried of the risk to break a few sites running unfixed versions of haproxy if a new Chrome version enables the test again; we've faced some hard to diagnose bugs not too long ago and users are trained to disable H2 if something really bad happens. Of course it's not desirable but it's not as if everything definitely broke. Also our community tends to be quite reactive when it comes to applying important fixes. Thus I full support restarting the test ASAP :-) Cheers, Willy
- HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Mike Bishop
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Lucas Pardue
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- RE: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Mike Bishop
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Ian Swett
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Bence Béky
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- RE: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Mike Bishop
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Lucas Pardue
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications David Benjamin
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications David Benjamin
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Bence Béky
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Stefan Eissing
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Bence Béky
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Tom Bergan
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Bence Béky
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Tom Bergan
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Willy Tarreau
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Dmitri Tikhonov
- Re: HTTP/2 GREASE, Results, and Implications Stefan Eissing