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Re: Comments on draft-stark-expect-ct-00

Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg> Thu, 10 November 2016 22:00 UTC

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From: Tom Ritter <tom@ritter.vg>
Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2016 15:56:12 -0600
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On 9 November 2016 at 18:57, Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> wrote:
> S 2.1.3.
> What's the rationale for not caching the directive in report-only mode.
> If the purpose of the report-only mode is to tell you when you have
> nonconforming servers, then don't you want to be able to turn it on
> on server A and detect hwen server B is broken? That seems like it
> doesn't work if you don't cache.

I may have more comments, but ++ here. I would like to avoid repeating
the same situation we had with this behavior not being in HPKP.

-tom

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