Re: trailers and pseudo-headers

"Eric J. Bowman" <eric@bisonsystems.net> Wed, 02 July 2014 09:49 UTC

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Date: Wed, 02 Jul 2014 03:46:11 -0600
From: "Eric J. Bowman" <eric@bisonsystems.net>
To: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>
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"Poul-Henning Kamp" wrote:
>
> >Hm? That would imply buffering all responses before displaying them?
> 
> Exactly...  :status must be final and definitive before the client
> can decide how to present or process the body.
> 

I'm not sure how to interpret your position here PHK, but this would be
a major step backwards for the Web.

-Eric