Re: Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when does the client need to return them?
James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> Sun, 28 April 2013 06:24 UTC
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From: James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com>
To: Roberto Peon <grmocg@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when does the client need to return them?
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That's not what I see documented in the draft currently. Pending update, perhaps? On Apr 27, 2013 2:38 PM, "Roberto Peon" <grmocg@gmail.com> wrote: > The AP couldn't set anything w.r.t settings unless you connect to it > specifically and it has a cert that your browser trusts, at least assuming > the model where settings are persisted only for sessions using verified > certs (like what is done with SPDY today). > And then the browser (at least Chrome) will forget the setting upon the > change of network. > And of course, one could just set a cookie instead of doing SETTINGS, but > then we announce it everyone, even when not useful. bleh. > > We'll talk about it later anyway. > > > On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:39 PM, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> To be honest, the whole persistent settings thing gives me the >> willies, particularly given that SETTINGS as defined currently are >> generally specific to individual connections. If I'm on the road and >> on my phone connected temporarily to a free wifi access point, I don't >> necessarily want that access point being able to tell my phone to >> persistently store some piece of data that will never be used anywhere >> else... Not to mention the inherent privacy concerns... >> >> On Fri, Apr 26, 2013 at 8:06 PM, Martin Thomson >> <martin.thomson@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Given that persisted settings are at risk, I think that we can defer >> > addressing this one. >> > >> > (I'd say that once is enough and that persisted settings need only be >> > returned at connection establishment time, but that's not the only >> > thing we need to address with persistent settings, I think.) >> > >> > On 26 April 2013 14:28, James M Snell <jasnell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> One bit that's not clear in the current draft... >> >> >> >> When the server asks the client to persist a setting, is the client >> >> required to return that setting in EVERY subsequent SETTINGS frame it >> >> sends to the server until the setting is cleared or is it only >> >> required to send the persisted settings once when a new session is >> >> established (i.e. in the client session header?) >> >> >> >> >
- Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when does … James M Snell
- Re: Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when d… Martin Thomson
- Re: Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when d… James M Snell
- Re: Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when d… Roberto Peon
- Re: Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when d… James M Snell
- Re: Editorial Issue: Persisted Settings... when d… William Chan (陈智昌)