Re: Feedback on "Compression Dictionary Transport" draft.

Patrick Meenan <patmeenan@gmail.com> Sat, 27 July 2024 14:35 UTC

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From: Patrick Meenan <patmeenan@gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2024 10:34:30 -0400
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On Sat, Jul 27, 2024 at 8:12 AM Shyamal Chandra <shyamalc@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Did anyone get this message or was it simply ignored?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Best,
>
> Shyamal Chandra
> shyamalc@gmail.com
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:20 PM Shyamal Chandra <shyamalc@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Hope you are all well!
>>
>> As an expert in networking and AI, I just skimmed very quickly through
>> the draft of "Compression Dictionary Transport" and in my opinion, it feels
>> incomplete, doesn't have any ASCII diagrams, is not from first principles,
>> and the flow of the document is sort of abrupt without clear definitions of
>> all the terms.  Thus, I would highly recommend that the authors rewrite it
>> to reveal all the details and make everything crystal clear.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Shyamal Chandra
>> shyamalc@gmail.com
>> bento.com/shyamal
>> linkedin.com/in/shyamalc
>> shyamalchandra.com
>>
>>