Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant?
Stefan Eissing <stefan.eissing@greenbytes.de> Fri, 04 September 2020 09:31 UTC
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Subject: Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant?
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I mean, to be honest, the Internet worked best at the time of HTTP/1.0. ;) Stefan > Am 04.09.2020 um 11:13 schrieb Willy Tarreau <w@1wt.eu>: > > On Fri, Sep 04, 2020 at 11:08:24AM +0200, Daniel Stenberg wrote: >> On Fri, 4 Sep 2020, Willy Tarreau wrote: >> >>>> - server then gives Content-Length: in response >>> >>> They're lucky because it could perfectly just deliver the data and close! >> >> Yes absolutely. And it somewhat puzzling to a client-oriented mind like mine >> that there are servers that opt to go chunked even though they apparently >> have the size ... > > Maybe they actually go the hard way and buffer everything just to > count... I've already seen such horrors a long time ago. > > Willy
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- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Daniel Stenberg
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Eric J Bowman
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Willy Tarreau
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Stefan Eissing
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- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Eric J Bowman
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Willy Tarreau
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Daniel Stenberg
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Willy Tarreau
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Daniel Stenberg
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Willy Tarreau
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Stefan Eissing
- Re: Is HTTP/1.0 still relevant? Eric J Bowman
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