Re: draft-ietf-httpbis-jfv: what's next

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Wed, 19 October 2016 15:35 UTC

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In message <20161019144543.GC653@1wt.eu>eu>, Willy Tarreau writes:

>That's very useful data. On haproxy, we never ever had a single report of
>a broken application caused by the fact that we block 0.9 responses.

Ditto Varnish (as far as I know...)


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