Return-Path: X-Original-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABCED21E80E7 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:37:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -10.599 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-10.599 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-8] Received: from mail.ietf.org ([12.22.58.30]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hQWYuBcQQtli for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F98021E80CC for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:37:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V4O92-0000VN-1Q for ietf-http-wg-dist@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:36:16 +0000 Resent-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:36:16 +0000 Resent-Message-Id: Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V4O8r-0000UA-9K for ietf-http-wg@listhub.w3.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:36:05 +0000 Received: from mail-wi0-f179.google.com ([209.85.212.179]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_ARCFOUR_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1V4O8q-00051s-N6 for ietf-http-wg@w3.org; Wed, 31 Jul 2013 04:36:05 +0000 Received: by mail-wi0-f179.google.com with SMTP id hr7so180060wib.12 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:35:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=byFix0w5YOxBs+uOzS90wq1rbyzaCqFFwp9Rs/MSIng=; b=WHwGFgr8hXO0uGumQOvHcZgsM63f3xiGrUDDXOPhiZFXYuO/J8+f4ysIpYemV/ULJd I7wuSY9H8QPAz1pLLbZZW3pWe3ONYyYyet4A2rWM2LyyzAZRAXW6qifUPenxxzLW8zKr XofT/MYejCcdpTnkUgLsYPQ1HuUAylnjq2UMCyIKammwykjV7RhQJHATla33cpFyTHkF PetswEX50aDvnH5ZcuJW7h7rS0qyxA+eO59s3+e8zyRyJO1D7duIMo03zyvwF+Sx1zhv zyhFWRzQgfpvyTrtKcmT1v/eL1G8+Y6oOsaiD2/Smv9tbZSbDHeAGU9MsY14zOEQTkNG qb1g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.77.99 with SMTP id r3mr48534675wjw.5.1375245338582; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:35:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.60.46 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 21:35:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <32754_1375115822_51F69A2E_32754_8403_1_5AE9CCAA1B4A2248AB61B4C7F0AD5FB906C6BC40@PEXCVZYM14.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 06:35:38 +0200 Message-ID: From: Martin Thomson To: Peter Lepeska Cc: =?UTF-8?B?V2lsbGlhbSBDaGFuICjpmYjmmbrmmIwp?= , "emile.stephan@orange.com" , Michael Sweet , Eliot Lear , Zhong Yu , HTTP Working Group Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.212.179; envelope-from=martin.thomson@gmail.com; helo=mail-wi0-f179.google.com X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.5 X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: AWL=-2.700, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_PASS=-0.001 X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1V4O8q-00051s-N6 aeb6f82226fb8f2ffcd1f41ca32ddc6d X-Original-To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org Subject: Re: HTTP 2.0 in the clear and over TLS Archived-At: Resent-From: ietf-http-wg@w3.org X-Mailing-List: archive/latest/18996 X-Loop: ietf-http-wg@w3.org Resent-Sender: ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org Precedence: list List-Id: List-Help: List-Post: List-Unsubscribe: On 30 July 2013 17:28, Peter Lepeska wrote: > because TLS costs 1 additional round trip per domain at minimum This is an interesting point. Perhaps you would be interested to learn that a) this is a known problem with a number of well-known solutions, and b) the TLS working group is talking about starting on TLS 1.3. I'll let you draw your own conclusions about this.