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Re: draft-ietf-httpbis-jfv: what's next

"Poul-Henning Kamp" <phk@phk.freebsd.dk> Sat, 15 October 2016 22:30 UTC

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In message <20161015213519.GA28177@1wt.eu>, Willy Tarreau writes:

>And it also helps when headers are duplicated. Below it's becoming
>obvious what type of duplication happened, and where :
>
>     Foo1: >blah<, >bar<
>     Foo2: >blah, bar<

True, but that doesn't make me any more well disposed towards
header split/concatenation.

>> We have three options:
>> 
>> 1. Keep using RFC7230::token for 'identifier'
>(...)
>> 2. Restrict 'identifier'
>(...)
>> 3. Let the semantic layer sort it out.
>(...)
>
>> I picked 3 based on 'minimum intrusiveness', but I can live with
>> all three.
>
>And what about #4 consisting in indicating the encoding in the header
>field *name* instead

That's quite a hack, isn't it ?

I'd prefer not to complicate things that way if I can...

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