Re: WebSocket2
Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com> Sun, 02 October 2016 12:48 UTC
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Date: Sun, 02 Oct 2016 15:43:46 +0300
From: Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com>
To: Kari Hurtta <hurtta-ietf@elmme-mailer.org>
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Subject: Re: WebSocket2
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On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 02:10:32PM +0300, Kari Hurtta wrote: > Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com>: (Sun Oct 2 13:15:48 2016) > > On Sun, Oct 02, 2016 at 11:00:29AM +0300, Kari hurtta wrote: > > > > > > (A,B) Is there http error code which tells that > > > that it was unsuppoted :scheme (and not other > > > error, for example wrong :path) ? > > > > > > That is needed that client (A) orPbroxy (B) can > > > switch Websocket (RFC 6455) negotated over > > > HTTP/1.1 > > > > I don't think there is (and that's a part of the problem) with current > > scheme handling. > > > > There are probably quite a bit of servers that just plain ignore the > > scheme in request. > > Hmm. Was reason why > > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-hirano-httpbis-websocket-over-http2-01 > > used SETTINGS frame with SETTINGS_WEBSOCKET_CAPABLE parameter ? > Seems not mention that reason. > > That means that server needs send SETTINGS_WEBSOCKET_CAPABLE = 1 > to client indicating that server handles :scheme = ws > ( and on that draft SETTINGS_WEBSOCKET_CAPABLE = 1 > was sent from client to server. ) Well, I think the following would work and avoid SETTINGS: -> :method ws2 -> :scheme wss -> :authority foo.example -> :path /bar -> <optional extra parameters, e.g. compression support> <- :status 200 <- sec-ws2-ack 1 <- <optional negotiated extras> That is, include one header where server acknowledges that it is Websockets2 capable. No need for crypto in negotiation because the target is already known to be HTTP/2 capable, instead of just known to be TCP capable as in case with Websockets(1). And unsuccessful request would elict a HTTP response code: - 405 for endpoint not supporting Websockets2 - 404 for endpoit does not exist - 403 for "I don't want to talk to you" - 401 for "identify yourself". <And possibly others> As for 301/302/307/308 responses, redirect across schemes would be error (channel open failed). And one would need to be very careful about redirects out of server's authority (probably channel open failed). -Ilari
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