Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding-03.txt

Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com> Thu, 20 October 2016 21:02 UTC

Return-Path: <ietf-http-wg-request+bounce-httpbisa-archive-bis2juki=lists.ie@listhub.w3.org>
X-Original-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77D061296D0 for <ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:02:55 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -6.932
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-6.932 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_HI=-5, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.431, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8TKQUxUTljmk for <ietfarch-httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@ietfa.amsl.com>; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:02:54 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from frink.w3.org (frink.w3.org [128.30.52.56]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E45BA129463 for <httpbisa-archive-bis2Juki@lists.ietf.org>; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:02:53 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from lists by frink.w3.org with local (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <ietf-http-wg-request@listhub.w3.org>) id 1bxKQ0-0007ie-RZ for ietf-http-wg-dist@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:58:28 +0000
Resent-Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:58:28 +0000
Resent-Message-Id: <E1bxKQ0-0007ie-RZ@frink.w3.org>
Received: from lisa.w3.org ([128.30.52.41]) by frink.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <martin.thomson@gmail.com>) id 1bxKPv-0007fu-Vw for ietf-http-wg@listhub.w3.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:58:24 +0000
Received: from mail-qk0-f171.google.com ([209.85.220.171]) by lisa.w3.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from <martin.thomson@gmail.com>) id 1bxKPu-0003fi-2f for ietf-http-wg@w3.org; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 20:58:23 +0000
Received: by mail-qk0-f171.google.com with SMTP id f128so113665929qkb.1 for <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:58:01 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=t0ChVZMnD2HXSPJIvqX+SBG6bVonYR+FI0wfxjua9YM=; b=LCBNl+w6NFAYBr9RLAU+Ua6FwSCccuiLxgGL8/Jpo6fDKoIS3fQTYzUsFi+ZihUhdD KxpTDDdr1EdRktzFu9n5DVp7LwJnasJSizkrMrpEbLUWHvII7K4QSF4OsbgpOxxh/XSV kKI4Wn/UZff/UoefiyoQBomkPfG6vZR1LrFtYpNS19OXAFWsIgPsNMZiKIs7qTLjod3Z rHR9xZ8yL4L/uWditfkGt6n+xiDe4unCcqscFAYKkyTaGaEOIn1mmjI3lINp8KbcJtuB FdtpefsTcU0z8GAezYE1XFiWNv+KmqOjWmrM1JJJar7c7Poa/Y+6meILuTn8l/kcMNU1 JP8g==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=t0ChVZMnD2HXSPJIvqX+SBG6bVonYR+FI0wfxjua9YM=; b=WweHkZmIuT76faT5JeEPmvEA3aokN+WAvUWza63LB+AVvtIM56wHCM6HrPEz4zjQun I1FpSH0mNAturELFoEINFvNEh+Y6fdqCCx8jciKWi8TbqyAUyIi1CWViPppn4+526xm1 Ak+6VvLumdNx9mND2j3k/o/gIkM2lTkiMYBUPNZrKeI0pt1CWXyxaMEAQV5kgN6LBxKt TrD+Cu1QI74BHCnkNAC1DJOW8YN7qb/meuS/tbj1VYb1oDo2Eu5wD4eoAoW5zDcQpVdx pUwrlNGK7uhoz3jElBCmr9BGnyUELxEdV0LVbimGS1h6TyhZoMJOAKsHtHnfvo4SN1uA WwaA==
X-Gm-Message-State: ABUngvfEbs8GjRDLis1iPxXbGOgqbkf9GCeG5dNoHxhrki25e/PRQq1Sm+SCYxt2dHJ+PvR2PALqHQ89jnJTww==
X-Received: by 10.55.165.16 with SMTP id o16mr2589092qke.5.1476997075879; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
Received: by 10.140.85.7 with HTTP; Thu, 20 Oct 2016 13:57:55 -0700 (PDT)
In-Reply-To: <8e4d34d7-10fb-5715-bfca-28eca705ea08@gmx.de>
References: <147607568231.30483.6721771001967558206.idtracker@ietfa.amsl.com> <06660B0E-6F8D-42DF-A909-C216B49FB590@mnot.net> <03fb16fd-35d4-e5d3-86d4-317b1016829e@gmx.de> <CABkgnnWKOTheZ9Gf9WLfVWAsQwNWi=EM6LhX=Za+UXnXQkf6AQ@mail.gmail.com> <90ee7958-5697-23ad-6f52-060f58800067@gmx.de> <7720.1476858421@critter.freebsd.dk> <7c879010-2145-fabc-9f97-d05de90e5147@gmx.de> <30011.1476886408@critter.freebsd.dk> <18d7f584-a303-f218-24ec-abf0c341f436@gmx.de> <CABkgnnWasq4=Y3uuw-Sccch8DMW9jTB474JnrJEuJa_gzDrKaA@mail.gmail.com> <8e4d34d7-10fb-5715-bfca-28eca705ea08@gmx.de>
From: Martin Thomson <martin.thomson@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 21 Oct 2016 07:57:55 +1100
Message-ID: <CABkgnnVxidPhO_NgRtMSyG=djt+NZn9uPuL6Z4ZWmB3_00o6Qw@mail.gmail.com>
To: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>
Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@phk.freebsd.dk>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>, HTTP working group mailing list <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.220.171; envelope-from=martin.thomson@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk0-f171.google.com
X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.8
X-W3C-Hub-Spam-Report: AWL=-0.268, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM=0.5, SPF_PASS=-0.001, W3C_AA=-1, W3C_DB=-1, W3C_IRA=-1, W3C_WL=-1
X-W3C-Scan-Sig: lisa.w3.org 1bxKPu-0003fi-2f 67530c047436ed3e4a21d6590658a604
X-Original-To: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Subject: Re: 2nd Working Group Last Call: draft-ietf-httpbis-encryption-encoding-03.txt
Archived-At: <http://www.w3.org/mid/CABkgnnVxidPhO_NgRtMSyG=djt+NZn9uPuL6Z4ZWmB3_00o6Qw@mail.gmail.com>
Resent-From: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
X-Mailing-List: <ietf-http-wg@w3.org> archive/latest/32660
X-Loop: ietf-http-wg@w3.org
Resent-Sender: ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org
Precedence: list
List-Id: <ietf-http-wg.w3.org>
List-Help: <http://www.w3.org/Mail/>
List-Post: <mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:ietf-http-wg-request@w3.org?subject=unsubscribe>

On 20 October 2016 at 17:16, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
> Could you clarify this? Is this about a technical issue, or about when
> webpush can be finalized?

We have deployed code, lots of it, that sort of rely on the current
structure.  We would need a transition strategy.