Re: Magnus Westerlund's Discuss on draft-ietf-httpbis-header-structure-18: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Thu, 21 May 2020 05:44 UTC

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> On 21 May 2020, at 1:29 pm, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> 
> At this late stage, this is a non-trivial change; the risk of an implementation not updating for it is relatively low, but the risk of getting the fix wrong is much higher. So, I'm going to prepare a pull request and circulate it in the community to both get more eyes on it, and make sure the change gets consensus.

See:
  https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/pull/1173  <- spec changes
  https://github.com/httpwg/structured-header-tests/pull/43  <- test changes

Cheers,

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