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RE: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team

Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com> Fri, 23 September 2022 17:25 UTC

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From: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>
To: Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>
CC: "Bishop, Mike" <mbishop@akamai.com>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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Hey Mike,

I would be interested in participating on the design team, both as an HTTP client/server implementor and a DNS client implementor and the integration your 114 presentation suggested.

Thanks,
Tommy

From: Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 9:30 AM
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Cc: Bishop, Mike <mbishop@akamai.com>; Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team

At IETF 114, there was a side meeting discussion and brief presentation in the WG meeting about ways forward for Alt-Svc.

https://httpwg.org/wg-materials/ietf114/Alt-Svc.pdf<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhttpwg.org%2Fwg-materials%2Fietf114%2FAlt-Svc.pdf&data=05%7C01%7CJensen.Thomas%40microsoft.com%7C4568103bbdee44856c5508da9d817e63%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637995476970265868%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=89eWjOe0vxI8Lgpxq0%2FruTlRntvy9enNidbwm8e%2Bz0E%3D&reserved=0>
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To continue that discussion, Mike Bishop has volunteered to lead a design team to discuss this space and come up with a proposal to present to the WG.

Please send email back to Mike and/or the chairs, or the list, if you're interested in participating in this design team!

Best,
Tommy

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