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Re: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http

Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> Wed, 17 August 2016 01:32 UTC

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> On Aug 16, 2016, at 21:18, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 4 Aug 2016, at 1:08 AM, Patrick McManus <pmcmanus@mozilla.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 7:11 AM, Tim Wicinski <tjw.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Alternative Approaches are always welcome.
>> 
>> As an aside, I thought draft-shane was very interesting - thanks for mentioning it here.
>> 
>> Here's what I have heard as "requirements" around dns in http in the past:
>> 
>> * a standard application developer api for lookup. Often expressed as REST/JSON
>> * a standard application developer api for publishing changes. Often expressed as REST/JSON
>> * a tunnel for the DNS protocol
>> * a push mechanism for broadcasting DNS info relevant to the http connection
>> * solid integration with HTTP caches
>> 
>> I know there have been a number of json-ification discussions in the past. Maybe its time to roll those, the DNS expertise, and the HTTP expertise into a unified effort? It seems this is an easy space to accidentally partition out to its own domain experts and end up with something that isn't satisfying to the whole. I would hope to avoid that. Tim, what are your thoughts on that?
>> 
>> Doing that is certainly a more ambitious project than just tunneling an existing protocol, but I think its potential impact is much bigger - especially if it gets the right people in the room.
>> 
>> In addition to the differing sets of requirements, I think there are different perspectives on eco-system and security impacts to be had.
> 
> +1 to that. Who'd be interested in a side meeting (Bar BoF, separate session, whatever) in Seoul? 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
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> Mark Nottingham   https://www.mnot.net/
>

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