RE: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team
Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be> Fri, 30 September 2022 17:26 UTC
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From: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
To: Ryan Hamilton <rch@google.com>, Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>
CC: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>, Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>, HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>, "Bishop, Mike" <mbishop@akamai.com>, Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net>
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If there’s anyone else who’s interested, please be in touch shortly. We’ll get something scheduled for next week with those who’ve replied so far. From: Ryan Hamilton <rch@google.com> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2022 4:28 PM To: Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com> Cc: Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>; Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com>; HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org>; Bishop, Mike <mbishop@akamai.com>; Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net> Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team I would also be interested in participating. Thanks for leading, Mike! On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 10:32 AM Lucas Pardue <lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com<mailto:lucaspardue.24.7@gmail.com>> wrote: Thanks Mike for volunteering to lead the team. I would like to be a part of this activity. Cheers, Lucas On Fri, Sep 23, 2022 at 6:26 PM Tommy Jensen <Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com<mailto:Jensen.Thomas@microsoft.com>> wrote: Hey Mike, I would be interested in participating on the design team, both as an HTTP client/server implementor and a DNS client implementor and the integration your 114 presentation suggested. Thanks, Tommy From: Tommy Pauly <tpauly@apple.com<mailto:tpauly@apple.com>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2022 9:30 AM To: HTTP Working Group <ietf-http-wg@w3.org<mailto:ietf-http-wg@w3.org>> Cc: Bishop, Mike <mbishop@akamai.com<mailto:mbishop@akamai.com>>; Mark Nottingham <mnot@mnot.net<mailto:mnot@mnot.net>> Subject: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team At IETF 114, there was a side meeting discussion and brief presentation in the WG meeting about ways forward for Alt-Svc. https://httpwg.org/wg-materials/ietf114/Alt-Svc.pdf<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhttpwg.org%2Fwg-materials%2Fietf114%2FAlt-Svc.pdf&data=05%7C01%7CJensen.Thomas%40microsoft.com%7C4568103bbdee44856c5508da9d817e63%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637995476970265868%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=89eWjOe0vxI8Lgpxq0%2FruTlRntvy9enNidbwm8e%2Bz0E%3D&reserved=0> https://httpwg.org/wg-materials/ietf114/Alt-SVCB.pdf<https://nam06.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fhttpwg.org%2Fwg-materials%2Fietf114%2FAlt-SVCB.pdf&data=05%7C01%7CJensen.Thomas%40microsoft.com%7C4568103bbdee44856c5508da9d817e63%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C637995476970265868%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=1ZZwTzsLazx8GVjtI%2F6luor8Oq%2F3UEqUL%2B0%2FXonOf%2F4%3D&reserved=0> To continue that discussion, Mike Bishop has volunteered to lead a design team to discuss this space and come up with a proposal to present to the WG. Please send email back to Mike and/or the chairs, or the list, if you’re interested in participating in this design team! Best, Tommy
- Alt-Svc design team Tommy Pauly
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team Lucas Pardue
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team Ryan Hamilton
- Re: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team David Benjamin
- Re: Alt-Svc design team Martin Thomson
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team Tommy Jensen
- RE: [EXTERNAL] Alt-Svc design team Mike Bishop