Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP

Marshall Eubanks <tme@americafree.tv> Mon, 22 November 2010 04:13 UTC

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Subject: Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP
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I have pinged the Secretariat to stop all of these 4-day old messages. 

Regards
Marshall




On Nov 17, 2010, at 5:20 AM, DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL) wrote:

> You are treated worse because you are paying less :D. I think it is a good assumption to think that if you are not willing to pay an extra cost, maybe what you are doing is not so important...
> 
> When i am in a hurry i take the toll highway, while when i am not i use the toll-free (ussually jammed) one....
> 
> 
>    Saludos,
>         Luismi
> 
> -----Mensaje original-----
> De: David Singer [mailto:singer@apple.com] 
> Enviado el: martes, 16 de noviembre de 2010 20:40
> Para: Mike Hammer
> CC: DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL); Mikael Abrahamsson; dispatch@ietf.org; Ingemar@core3.amsl.com; httpstreaming; conex@ietf.org; Johansson S; GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
> Asunto: Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP
> 
> OK, so my example was slightly humorous.  But in general I think the claim that you can give preferential treatment -- preferential allocation of bandwidth -- to certain traffic simply because of its type is doubtful.  
> 
> Remember, this issue only comes up when there is a shortage;  and the thesis that I should be short-changed more (treated worse) than you because you are doing a real-time operation and I am not, is doubtful.
> 
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 10:46 , Mike Hammer (hmmr) wrote:
> 
>> David,
>> 
>> Let us be real.  If your file shows up 1 second later, does it matter?
>> Probably not.
>> 
>> If my voice or video packet shows up 1 second later, does it matter?
>> Yes, it gets dropped.
>> 
>> Mike
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Singer [mailto:singer@apple.com]
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 1:03 PM
>> To: DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
>> Cc: Mikael Abrahamsson; Mike Hammer (hmmr); dispatch@ietf.org; 
>> Ingemar@core3.amsl.com; httpstreaming; conex@ietf.org; Johansson S; 
>> GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
>> Subject: Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP
>> 
>> 
>> On Nov 11, 2010, at 10:43 , DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Now think on Internet. You are playing a Real-Time game and your
>> neighbours are just downloading files. 
>> 
>> I am downloading a critical file that will enable me to respond to an 
>> urgent legal issue I have;  you are merely playing games.  You can wait.
>> 
>> I paid the same as you for my bandwidth, so I should get at least fair 
>> treatment, if not preferential -:)
>> 
>> David Singer
>> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
>> 
> 
> David Singer
> Multimedia and Software Standards, Apple Inc.
> 
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