Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP
"Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com> Tue, 09 November 2010 17:37 UTC
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From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com>
To: "GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)" <jose_javier.garcia_aranda@alcatel-lucent.com>, Qin Wu <sunseawq@huawei.com>, dispatch@ietf.org
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I wish your FAQ were something a lot shorter so that it would give us the main points very quickly. You are welcome to join tomorrow's bof session on http streaming but I don't see these two topics particularly relevant to each other (at this stage). -acbegen > -----Original Message----- > From: dispatch-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:dispatch-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE > JAVIER) > Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:33 AM > To: Qin Wu; dispatch@ietf.org > Cc: httpstreaming > Subject: Re: [dispatch] Q-HTTP > > Hi Qin and all, > > Now the Q-HTTP draft is accesible at > > http://www.ietf.org/id/draft-aranda-dispatch-qhttp-00.txt > > In addition, i have attached in this email a FAQ document for easier understanding of the protocol. This document clarifies > the philosophy and shows different alternatives for the implementation > > Regards and thanks > > - Jose javier > > > -----Mensaje original----- > De: Qin Wu [mailto:sunseawq@huawei.com] > Enviado el: lunes, 08 de noviembre de 2010 15:35 > Para: GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER); dispatch@ietf.org > CC: httpstreaming > Asunto: Re: [dispatch] Q-HTTP > > Hi, Joes Javier: > Your bring a quite interesting draft. We have a Bar BOF on HTTP streaming on Wednesday evening, Emenrald room, which > aims at building new area and working out appropriate working scope to offer more efficient transport and better QoE. One > of key issues we are ready to address is QOE improvement. If you are interested, please join our discussion. > Also you can track the following link for our meeting agenda, location and time: > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/httpstreaming/current/maillist.html > > Regards! > -Qin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)" <jose_javier.garcia_aranda@alcatel-lucent.com> > To: <dispatch@ietf.org> > Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 4:14 PM > Subject: [dispatch] Q-HTTP > > > > Hi experts, > > We are a group of researchers which have written a draft about QoS measurements & reactions. We believe the > standardization of this topic could benefit internet community in the coming years, for example for virtualization of > videogames through intenet. We would like to receive comments and some feedback and also oppinions about the target > area, because we believe that the draft fits into Real-time App and infrastructure Area scope, but currently the draft is in > "looking for an area" state > > The draft describes Q-HTTP (Quality HTTP) , which is an application level protocol based on HTTP and SDP associated to a > new specific uri "httpq://..." intended for carrying out quality negotiation and quality measurement between two parties. The > final goal of this > process is to verify that a certain application which depends on bandwidth, latency, jitter parameters, will work under > current network conditions. Our idea tackles the fact that real-time services (virtualization, on line gaming, video, voice) > nowadays are increasing and that in an internet (or WAN) environment propagation conditions may change with time for our > connection; what works for most applications may not work for real-time ones and they should have a standard way of > negotiating and verifying their requirements. Q-HTTP also provides a mechanism of account/alerting when required > constraints are not met after the measurement is carried out. > > Implementation details on the actions to be triggered upon reception/detection of QoS alerts exchanged by the protocol are > out of scope of this draft, it is application dependant (e.g. increase quality, reduce bit-rate) or even network dependant (e.g. > change connection's quality profile). > > Comments? Thanks > > - Jose Javier > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dispatch mailing list > > dispatch@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > >
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mark Nottingham
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Gunnar Heikkilä
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Gunnar Heikkilä
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Lars Eggert
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Ingemar Johansson S
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Dirk Kutscher
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Van Caenegem, Tom (Tom)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mcdysan, David E
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP ken carlberg
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Roland Bless
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Toby Moncaster
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Toby Moncaster
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Hadriel Kaplan
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Janet P Gunn
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP GARCIA ARANDA, JOSE JAVIER (JOSE JAVIER)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Kevin Mason
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP David Singer
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Benjamin Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Benjamin Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Mark Baugher
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Mike Hammer (hmmr)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP Adam Roach
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [dispatch] [conex] Q-HTTP DIAZ VIZCAINO, LUIS MIGUEL (LUIS MIGUEL)
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Woundy, Richard
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] [conex] [dispatch] Q-HTTP Marshall Eubanks