Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal

"Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com> Wed, 20 October 2010 11:21 UTC

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From: "Ali C. Begen (abegen)" <abegen@cisco.com>
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When the traffic is unicast, you don't have the problems we have in a multicast environment. The unicast traffic will naturally start from a random access point. You might need some initialization data to start decoding or whatever, but all that comes from the server over unicast anyway. The same applies to both on-demand and live content. 

-acbegen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ning Zong [mailto:zongning@huawei.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2010 11:50 AM
> To: Ali C. Begen (abegen); 'Roni Even'; 'David A. Bryan'; 'Qin Wu'
> Cc: httpstreaming@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal
> 
> IMO, the issue may not only related to multicast or unicast, but the QoE
> improvement (e.g. reduce the startup time after user change the channel). If
> I remember correctly, in the motivation of FCC in AVT, one important concern
> is that the Retransmission server can store the most recent GoPs and feed
> them to the client with faster rate than playback to effectively fill the
> gap between the time point of user channel zapping and next complete GoP.
> This improvement also applies to unicast based HTTP streaming, right?
> The above concern also implies that adding some intelligence to
> intermediaries would improve the streaming performance of HTTP streaming
> system. To be more specific, having a deep look at the mechanisms of
> distinguish different types of HTTP traffic (e.g. live streaming with higher
> timing requirement v.s. normal packet, streaming packet containing I-frame
> worthy of caching for further usage v.s. normal streaming packet) would be a
> possible direction for consideration in this list.
> 
> My two cents.
> 
> BR,
> Ning Zong
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: httpstreaming-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:httpstreaming-bounces@ietf.org]
> On Behalf Of Ali C. Begen (abegen)
> Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2010 6:15 AM
> To: Roni Even; David A. Bryan; Qin Wu
> Cc: httpstreaming@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal
> 
> > 2. Address the startup issue, we have worked in AVT on fast
> channel/content
> > change and I think this is relevant also in this case.
> 
> Are you assuming a multicast environment for http streaming? Ow, the startup
> issue is not an issue in unicast connections.
> 
> -acbegen
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