Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal
Wenbo Zhu <wenboz@google.com> Tue, 28 September 2010 08:03 UTC
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Thanks for putting all these together, and I definitely see the value in standardizing media streaming semantics on top of HTTP. A few meta-comments related to the subject of "HTTP streaming" 1. focus on HTTP and exclude any ambiguity that a different transport may be considered; 2. make it clear that this work is agnostic to emerging Web protocols/specs that are fundamentally browser-oriented; 3. avoid any attempt to extend the basic HTTP semantics (e.g. in conflict with httpbis) - Wenbo On Sun, Sep 26, 2010 at 6:20 PM, Qin Wu <sunseawq@huawei.com> wrote: > Hi, folks: > We have planned to have a BarBOF in time for Beijing IETF meeting. > > The primary goal of this BarBOF is to making sure that people agree on what > problem (or problems) need to be solved; > Some of these problems or interesting issues are summarized in my previous > email available at > (http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/httpstreaming/current/msg00002.html) > which was raised by people who are interested > in HTTP Streaming in the DISPATCH mailing list before we move to this new > discussion list. > The other problems come from HTTP streaming Problem statement > draft which I have updated recently > ( > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-wu-http-streaming-optimization-ps-01.txt > ). > > Another goal is to make sure we have not any overlapping with other SDO. > > In order to stimulate the discussion toward these two goals, I have crafted > intial charter skeleton. > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/httpstreaming/current/msg00003.html > > I would like us to center around these problems we listed and the intial > charter skeleton I drafted to figure out > (a) what kind of use cases can we have > (b) and how many problems are worth being discussed > (c) Is there any challenging issues we missed or neglected? > (d) and what kind of concrete protocol/mechanism/scheme can we come up > with? > > Also I would like to point out some related works in IETF for your > references. Curretly what we have on the table includes: > Apples' HTTP live streaming > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-pantos-http-live-streaming-04 > HTTP Streaming Problem Statement > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-wu-http-streaming-optimization-ps-001 > Implications of Full-Duplex HTTP > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-zhu-http-fullduplex-01 > If there is any related work missing or wrong, please let me know. Also I > would like to encourage people to bring your contributions > and thoughts in draft to this discussion list. > > Regards! > -Qin > > > _______________________________________________ > httpstreaming mailing list > httpstreaming@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/httpstreaming > >
- [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal David A. Bryan
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Luby, Michael
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Daniel Park
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Roni Even
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Roni Even
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Marshall Eubanks
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Kathy McEwen
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Colin Perkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Lars Eggert
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ye-Kui Wang
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Lars Eggert
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ye-Kui Wang
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Qin Wu
- [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current Sta… Ben Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current… Mark Watson
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull (was Re: Current… Ning Zong
- [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Status a… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Qin Wu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Push Vs Pull Re: Current Stat… Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Colin Perkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal David R Oran
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Benjamin Niven-Jenkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Thomas Stockhammer
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Colin Perkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Spencer Dawkins
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Wenbo Zhu
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ali C. Begen (abegen)
- Re: [httpstreaming] Current Status and Our Goal Ning Zong